We are wworking whith an outside vork for a neigboringschool where we do a sliprum for engineering technicians. Here, students praktice both wood, sheet metal and painting.
This is a great thing to do. It benefits everyone. Do you ever combine with other VET areas when you do outside work like this? For instance Interior design, or electrical, or art?
Hello again Sussane what fun that you think like me. Well i try to mix in plumbers and electricians to make it as close to reality as possible so. Thats when students feel that they enter the professional culture.
Yes, the very real jobs are clearly the experiences that seem to make the most difference to the students' development. And I think Jorgen really puts his finger on precisely why this is when he says that they feel like they are part of a professional culture. Real projects are almost never accomplished in isolation and we depend on others, with other skills and ideas, to make them happen. The participation in a culture is so clear in your example!
I really like Susanne's idea that we should take this cooperation a step further and get designers and artists involved in these cross-disciplinary projects! That would not only benefit everyone, but result in truly unique projects and results. It would also serve as a basis for increased understanding between a man's dominated field like building and those programs which have more women like art. That can be of high educational value in and of itself!
Yes we have just complete an apartment renovation and kithen renovation. Next project is loft that will decorated. I think this gives a lots of great learning and the student may feel they will be yused by anyone.
Hi Joe I have tried to build clientele in our school district that is split in many different directions in which we can help each other. I t did did hurt me when you see that the schools do not use knowledge we possed and instead use outside companies. Then Ihave also som old customers we worked for.
Yes hello Ingemar its a bit up to me how i put it upp but about eighty percent i think. Mentoring divided between colleagues as the ones im not mentoring over,I contact when i need to and they will contact me.Advandtages are many but they have to take more responsibility,they enter the professional culture,its not just me looking at the results but it should be used by someone else.
Yes, that is exciting when they come out in real workplaces. It is from that time that they begin to see real workers as peers and I think that must make a huge difference in how the apprentice begins to see himself. I would expect that these on-the-job learning situations promote maturity to a degree that classroom-work never reaches!
Hi Jorgen
ReplyDeleteThis is a great thing to do. It benefits everyone. Do you ever combine with other VET areas when you do outside work like this? For instance Interior design, or electrical, or art?
Susanne
Hello again Sussane what fun that you think like me. Well i try to mix in plumbers and electricians to make it as close to reality as possible so. Thats when students feel that they enter the professional culture.
DeleteYes, the very real jobs are clearly the experiences that seem to make the most difference to the students' development. And I think Jorgen really puts his finger on precisely why this is when he says that they feel like they are part of a professional culture. Real projects are almost never accomplished in isolation and we depend on others, with other skills and ideas, to make them happen. The participation in a culture is so clear in your example!
DeleteI really like Susanne's idea that we should take this cooperation a step further and get designers and artists involved in these cross-disciplinary projects! That would not only benefit everyone, but result in truly unique projects and results. It would also serve as a basis for increased understanding between a man's dominated field like building and those programs which have more women like art. That can be of high educational value in and of itself!
DeleteHi Jörgen
ReplyDeleteIt´s look like your student have a´lot of practical work in your school. But are the out and working as a carpenter in other places?
Yes we have just complete an apartment renovation and kithen renovation. Next project is loft that will decorated. I think this gives a lots of great learning and the student may feel they will be yused by anyone.
DeleteThat's awesome, Jorgen! I am curious, how do you get these projects for your students? Are these real customers, or friends, or??????
DeleteHi Joe I have tried to build clientele in our school district that is split in many different directions in which we can help each other. I t did did hurt me when you see that the schools do not use knowledge we possed and instead use outside companies. Then Ihave also som old customers we worked for.
DeleteHow much time is spent outside of school?
ReplyDeleteHow do you get mentors for the studetnes when the practice in real work environments?
What are the benefits for them workning outside schooll?
Ingemar
Yes hello Ingemar its a bit up to me how i put it upp but about eighty percent i think. Mentoring divided between colleagues as the ones im not mentoring over,I contact when i need to and they will contact me.Advandtages are many but they have to take more responsibility,they enter the professional culture,its not just me looking at the results but it should be used by someone else.
ReplyDeleteYes, that is exciting when they come out in real workplaces. It is from that time that they begin to see real workers as peers and I think that must make a huge difference in how the apprentice begins to see himself. I would expect that these on-the-job learning situations promote maturity to a degree that classroom-work never reaches!
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